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May 28, 2017 12:13 AM
#1
So what we're seeing with the Tokyo Ghoul bullshit is NOT new at all... In the past we have seen fanbases rage after the author makes a ship Canon and the "losers" flip their shit and even go so far as to destroy their own property (e.g manga, LNs, figures, etc.) and in the worst cases they even threaten the authors! "How dare he reject MY ship, fuck him, he needs to die!" I still remember how hard Oreimo fans raged when the author picked Kirino over Kuroneko....if anything it was way worse than what we're seeing from TG fans. Anyways, what makes people act like this? I mean, who even gives a shit about "canon" when we have doujins? In doujins everyone Wins! |
May 28, 2017 12:18 AM
#2
I kind of assume it's another form of team mentality "I'm on team such and such and how dare he declare the other team the winner." Based on other forms of team mentality it seems pretty standard, add into it the online fanbase whom are likely clashing to some extent all the way up until the end and of course it's going to blow once things reach that point. |
May 28, 2017 12:29 AM
#3
people tends to ship the impossible too, when i heard the whole tokyo ghoul thing and Ishida got threatened and shit, i was like "you're joking right" but o boi i was wrong when i got home and see all these bullshit, some people got too much time on their hand yet little knowledge with common sense in their brain i guess. |
May 28, 2017 12:30 AM
#4
Because shipping is the art of being a matchmaking little control freak. Overly obsessive types have an affinity for treating characters like collector's items that they get to sort and organize in their own image. I mean, have you seen Nagi no Asukara? The backlash against Manaka was vicious, I dare not repeat that black speech here lest Mordor's gaze fix upon me. Make no mistake, official pairings can be bad. But that's based on whether the romance is true to the character, not whether or not I think they look cute together. |
ZekkenshinMay 28, 2017 12:33 AM
May 28, 2017 1:06 AM
#5
Also....these incidents make other authors cautious when it comes to "picking" a girl... Or at least that's what I can imagine... So....Let's say you have a popular series and it's time to pick the girl or whatever...and because it's so popular you have two or more "camps" of fans rooting for their ships. Well, mangaka-san might not be so keen on picking anyone because he doesn't want to upset the "losing camp" or hell he just doesn't want to deal with autistic motherfuckers who don't realize all of this is fucking fiction! |
May 28, 2017 1:09 AM
#6
May 28, 2017 1:15 AM
#7
Some shippers are so delusional they go to the extremes of basing their whole lifes towards their ships. So, when one of their ships sinks deeper than the Titanic, they become absolutely batshit. Is kinda sad if you think about it. Those kind people of have to have a lot of issues to reach such situations. The Oreimo case was just people getting butthurt cause their waifu lost, however. Though, I think I read somewhere that the Japanese Oreimo fandom went mad... but during the time when Kuroneko and Kyousuke start dating |
IllyricusMay 28, 2017 6:01 AM
May 28, 2017 1:15 AM
#8
i mean i found it hard to believe oreimo shippers were that triggered to the point of sending death threads to the author, and i mean... pretty sure more people would be pissed tat it was incest than anything lul |
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May 28, 2017 1:17 AM
#9
Literally the only reason why I mind specific ships getting canon is when they have a trash fanbase behind them and I know my SNS will be spammed with it for the next couple of weeks. Tbh I don't really ship and I'm pretty chill with any kind of pairs, especially because I trust the authors. They know the characters the best. Also, in well-written shows, when someone doesn't end up with the character I want them to, I often still don't mind. Because when characters are developed well enough, there's mostly one character that suits the other better personality-wise. |
May 28, 2017 1:20 AM
#10
Yeah just look at the remtards and emiliafags complete disaster those people need help. |
May 28, 2017 1:20 AM
#11
HaXXspetten said: You could just not ship characters in the first place like me. Then you'll never get triggered by pointless crap like this I think people get into the habit of picking the best girl and it just becomes a domino effect. I'll be honest...I ship. But thankfully, I always remember that doujins are my friend when it doesn't pan out. Rem got rejected hard by whats-his-face....no problem, for every 1 ugly Emilia doujin, we have 10+ Amazing Rem top quality doujins and fan art and all the other good stuff. |
May 28, 2017 1:26 AM
#12
May 28, 2017 1:36 AM
#13
ReaperCreeper said: Pretty much, since the winner of the Nisekoi was clear since the first episode. I admit though that It was pretty great seeing them meltdown during the finale of Nisekoi though. You'd have to be pretty delusional to think it'd end any other way, which I guess explains their behaviour. showing Onodera in the shadows without showing her full face after she made the wedding cake of Raku and Chitoge was a dick move xD |
May 28, 2017 1:47 AM
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May 28, 2017 1:50 AM
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May 28, 2017 2:02 AM
#16
I can't understand it either. If my ship doesn't sail, then I'm just disappointed, that's all. I guess fans think they have the right to be so angry? Being a little angry is understandable, but burning merchandise and threatening whoever made the decision to make their NOTP canon is horribly wrong and inexcusable. |
May 28, 2017 2:32 AM
#17
Maybe the lack of anything else interesting in said shows other than shipping characters. Maybe an unhealthy amount of involvement in said shows to the point that it becomes obsessive. |
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May 28, 2017 2:36 AM
#18
how the hell im supposed to not rage when the mc reject a girl that kept sacrificing her life for him the whole season? how the hell im supposed to not rage when the mc reject a nice girl that always took care of him because of a shitty disgusting abusive tsundere that kept always treating him like a trash fuck you re zero fuck you nisekoi to the hell that trash anime goes |
tragedydesuMay 28, 2017 2:44 AM
May 28, 2017 2:40 AM
#19
Some fans become so obsessed with their shipping to the point that they become delusional and just want to see their couple get together in the show, even if that show has little to nothing to do with romance like what happened with the endings for Bleach and Naruto. They're both fighting shounens and yet so many people got upset with what couples are formed; it's stupid and completely pointless. Apparently a fan of the Netflix show Voltron tried to blackmail the staff to make his ship canon. Fucking mental, man. |
LIQfilmsMay 28, 2017 2:45 AM
May 28, 2017 2:44 AM
#20
Meeh dont mind meee Im just waiting for the news when a team consisting of crazy anime maniac that rooting for their ship only to realize that it'll fuckin sink make a terrorist group and shakes the whole word by dropping a bloody nuke in the middle of japan... Still waiting tbh |
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May 28, 2017 3:07 AM
#21
people tend to role play or assuming they are somebody else like the main character of a story and they got their own wishes for what the main character will have in life |
May 28, 2017 3:13 AM
#22
Isn't there some shipper that's blackmailing the studio behind the new Voltron series? |
May 28, 2017 3:19 AM
#23
dash5611 said: Isn't there some shipper that's blackmailing the studio behind the new Voltron series? Turns out that person was a troll who shipped another pairing and was trying to make the shippers of the popular ship look bad. So basically a whole lot of fuckery. ... I will admit I ship, but I don't become upset if my ships aren't canon because they come from shows that don't have romance, so it's to be expected. But radical shippers are very real and very frightening, tend to ruin the ship for the whole fandom and the actual non-radical shippers. Therefore I ship but don't become involved with the rest of the fans, I just live in my own little happy world. |
May 28, 2017 3:20 AM
#24
May 28, 2017 3:26 AM
#25
The fact that they are mentally challenged, that's what makes them rage. |
Johnnyd3rpMay 28, 2017 3:31 AM
May 28, 2017 3:43 AM
#26
Tsukkimaru said: dash5611 said: Isn't there some shipper that's blackmailing the studio behind the new Voltron series? Turns out that person was a troll who shipped another pairing and was trying to make the shippers of the popular ship look bad. So basically a whole lot of fuckery. ... Wow that is nuts and pretty embarrassing. |
May 28, 2017 3:59 AM
#27
dash5611 said: Tsukkimaru said: dash5611 said: Isn't there some shipper that's blackmailing the studio behind the new Voltron series? Turns out that person was a troll who shipped another pairing and was trying to make the shippers of the popular ship look bad. So basically a whole lot of fuckery. ... Wow that is nuts and pretty embarrassing. A true genius What an evil and magnificent plan that is He shud not be wasting his talent A master of deception if u ask me |
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May 28, 2017 4:01 AM
#28
dash5611 said: Tsukkimaru said: dash5611 said: Isn't there some shipper that's blackmailing the studio behind the new Voltron series? Turns out that person was a troll who shipped another pairing and was trying to make the shippers of the popular ship look bad. So basically a whole lot of fuckery. ... Wow that is nuts and pretty embarrassing. Yep, and it all started because some leaks got out that suggested said popular ship may be going down the canon road. Petty shippers are crazy, dude :/ |
May 28, 2017 4:06 AM
#29
Tokyo Ghoul and shipping? What? Fill me in please. Regarding Nisekoi, you are fucking retarded if you didn't see the outcome. The one-shot gave it away ffs. |
May 28, 2017 4:18 AM
#30
Saw the TG anime, and just started the manga, and I honestly don't get what shipping war is there other than kaneki and touka? Don't tell me they seriously ship kaneki and hide.... isn't he dead anyways?? |
May 28, 2017 4:32 AM
#31
What's at the heart of the issue is the concept of canon. People care WAY too much. Over the past few years, talk of canon seems to have become one of the most central topics of discussion in just about any fandom. I honestly have no idea what started it, but I feel the Star Wars Expanded Universe issue kind of made it explode and now, no matter where you look, no matter if DC/Marvel, any given anime series, or even the Godzilla franchise... everybody's first question is always whether something's canon or not. Here, have a manga adaptation of this anime. "Is it canon?" You should probably play the visual novel before going into the anime. "Which one is canon?" New figures of your favorite characters. "But but but cannon?" I think this is a really sad development. The more we care about what's "true" in universes that have never been true to begin with and whose power lies in their fiction, we forget the purpose of stories and fail to enjoy them. What's the meaning of storytelling when all that matters is "what matters"? Of course canon is important when it comes to a few things, but it shouldn't deter you from enjoying something. |
WormieMay 28, 2017 4:35 AM
May 28, 2017 5:45 AM
#32
I still remember the great salt of the NaruSaku. Poor Gelbooru was forced to remove the entire downvote system because they had no other way to fight the bots. I mean, why? I understand you're disappointed, but is a cartoon drawing sleeping with another specific cartoon drawing that important to you? Fucking hell. |
May 28, 2017 5:56 AM
#33
A number of fans become ridiculously invested in their headcanons due to their immersion and addiction to whatever it is they are a fan of. |
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May 28, 2017 5:58 AM
#34
I am finding this to be a common happening where Japanese culture (— or not necessarily culture, mediums would probably be the correct term) washes up on western shores. Personally, I have spent quite an amount of time in the visual kei scenery, and this phenomenon was also present there. The 'fans' could not withstand the reality of artists being human beings behind their masks of makeup and clothes. Imagination was all to them and nothing existed beyond that. As soon as even a tiny glimpse of the actual person was shown, there would be an extreme uproar. People are threatened constantly, musicians are forced out of their band or art by these supposed 'fans', some even shunned to never be seen again in the musical scene (this has actually happened to a few). And now I am merely speaking of the niche name of visual kei, not even mentioning idols who are perpetually humiliated for being human and not living up to a teenage girl's imaginary world. Apparantly, similar things now seem to happen in the anime / manga business when something doesn't go their way. People supposedly believe that another person's art is theirs to claim as their property. It is absurd. |
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May 28, 2017 6:04 AM
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May 28, 2017 6:08 AM
#36
Ever received a DVD/Blu-ray box set with one or multiple corners nicely dented? Can't blame the fans. There was clearly something wrong with the shipping. ThatRazorGuy said: their headcanons That's like... a double oxymoron. |
May 28, 2017 6:09 AM
#37
and the next season we have another disgusting Nisekoi rip off cant wait to give it 1/10 |
May 28, 2017 6:45 AM
#38
their insecurities, lack of reason and mental/emotional stability, immaturity, the need for instant gratification and unjustified self-importance. i can go on |
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May 28, 2017 6:50 AM
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May 28, 2017 8:38 AM
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May 28, 2017 6:49 PM
#41
GamerDLM said: I kind of assume it's another form of team mentality "I'm on team such and such and how dare he declare the other team the winner." Based on other forms of team mentality it seems pretty standard, add into it the online fanbase whom are likely clashing to some extent all the way up until the end and of course it's going to blow once things reach that point. Well, I can say, from my point of view that you grow with and to the characters, you get attached to them and their relationship. Of course you are disappointed and maybe a little bit mad, if there's something going wrong. Anyway, people, who are thinking about attacking and threatening an author personally should get help and a life. Immediately. |
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May 28, 2017 7:12 PM
#42
May 28, 2017 7:19 PM
#43
Everyone always complains about open romance or harem endings, now everyone complains when the character does choose someone. Anime community double standards guys. |
May 28, 2017 7:19 PM
#44
It's because anime fans are cringey weebs who think their opinion matters |
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May 28, 2017 7:21 PM
#45
Kruszer said: I really hate it when my package arrives damaged and my DVDs are crushed, then I have to send them back and wait longer. Regarding DVDs, I've been lucky so far, but I always fear that it could happen someday. I've had 2 Laserdiscs arrive with a hairline crack in them, rendering them unplayable. Ironically, both of them were of "Toward the Terra." It's like some evil force doesn't want me to have a playable copy of it or something. Anyway, I eventually bought it on DVD, so I'll be able to watch it now. |
May 28, 2017 7:40 PM
#46
Seiya said: Kruszer said: I really hate it when my package arrives damaged and my DVDs are crushed, then I have to send them back and wait longer. Regarding DVDs, I've been lucky so far, but I always fear that it could happen someday. I've had 2 Laserdiscs arrive with a hairline crack in them, rendering them unplayable. Ironically, both of them were of "Toward the Terra." It's like some evil force doesn't want me to have a playable copy of it or something. Anyway, I eventually bought it on DVD, so I'll be able to watch it now. I've had to deal with it about 5-10 times over past 17 years or so. Usually, what happens is the plastic case ends up being broken somehow, like the swinging hinged things inside, the spindels that hold the disc in place, or case itself was crushed somehow. The next most common is loose discs banging around inside the case and getting scratched. I've also had to exchange several things where the disc was just encoded badly and didn't play correctly (like playback would pixelate, skip, and eventually freeze rendering whole episodes unwatchable). |
May 28, 2017 8:43 PM
#47
I think the answer lies when ships sinks @SaekanoS2. Or... just look at the threads in Re:Zero and you'll figure it out OP... Have fun! :) |
May 29, 2017 12:27 AM
#48
JustALEX said: So what we're seeing with the Tokyo Ghoul bullshit is NOT new at all... In the past we have seen fanbases rage after the author makes a ship Canon and the "losers" flip their shit and even go so far as to destroy their own property (e.g manga, LNs, figures, etc.) and in the worst cases they even threaten the authors! "How dare he reject MY ship, fuck him, he needs to die!" I still remember how hard Oreimo fans raged when the author picked Kirino over Kuroneko....if anything it was way worse than what we're seeing from TG fans. Anyways, what makes people act like this? I mean, who even gives a shit about "canon" when we have doujins? In doujins everyone Wins! Agreed. But a little bit of canon material is worth 1000 doujins. But yeah really, why with those people sending the author kys message and all that. Upset because your ship sunk? I think it's normal to be upset, but when you attack/involve other people, let alone the author, that's when things goes wrong. Why people so enraged just because their ship sunk? Because some people put their heart and soul and time in that ship, and become obsessed with it. Resulting in extreme dissappointment when their ship didn't happen. |
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May 29, 2017 12:30 AM
#49
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